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ThelizardKing
02/23/2009 11:30 AM

quote tags dont work LAME! but anyway just read some of those. this topic has been debated all over this forum and is pretty much a dead horse. its basically a pissing match and a mtter of opinion i respect your please respect mine. thanks now get your ass back to america so we can go wheelin!

ThelizardKing
02/23/2009 11:27 AM

[QUOTE=Jerry Bransford;4760097]Autos don't break any easier, and the tougher the trail, the more an automatic's unique advantages really come into their own. 2-3X more low-end torque (yes, that is true... due to its torque converter) as well as an infinitely low 1st gear ratio, again due to the torque converter.

So far as those who say a manual gives you more control, maybe it does if it is in a sports car on a race track or mountain road. But offroad, an automatic gives more control, especially on extremely difficult trails. Which is why I am nearly finished converting my old 5-speed manual transmission to an automatic. My TJ is now primarily a trail Jeep so the automatic is going be a big help on the rocks I wheel on. In fact, at the championship rock crawling level you would be hard pressed to find any serious competitor still running a manual transmission. So yes, automatics hold up just fine... especially since they don't have a clutch to burn up.

In heavy traffic, you'll REALLY appreciate an automatic. :)[/QUOTE]

ThelizardKing
02/23/2009 11:27 AM

Food for thought...

[QUOTE=mrblaine;4953337]Not only does it boil down to personal preference, but not even the most convincing justifications in the world, no matter how masterfully crafted will go very far in the slightest towards changing any else's preference.

I'm going to drive an auto. It suits what I do when I need it to do it, and is my preference. Unless you have the same needs as I, then why would I expect you to have the same solution?

No matter how many times anyone reads that, it will not change their mind, their preferences, or their needs and that's all that really counts.

Drive what you like and quit trying to convince others to be sheep.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kiwi Jeeper;4759926]I have always been a fan of manual cars / trucks. But when I was looking for my TJ, I found one that had everything I wanted but was an auto. I bought it and have now learned how to enjoy it. It has not let me down in performance too much. But in certain situations, its easier in an auto as you can upshift or downshift without much of transition and losing momentum (i.e. going through mud and you realise you had picked the wrong gear and now need to change, drop the clutch and it opens an opportunity for mud to get in and destroy your clutch).

Otherwise, do test drives in either flavour and see which [B][I]you[/I][/B] like best. Happy jeeping.[/QUOTE]

ThelizardKing
01/22/2009 10:04 PM

sorry sir but i dont know you.....STAY AWAY!